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Kayden Kross Discusses Condom Issue on ‘Stossel’

Digital Playground contract star, Kayden Kross, made a guest appearance on the Fox Buiness program Stossel, regarding Los Angeles’ recent adoption of a law mandating the use of condoms on porn shoots.

Click here to watch the segment or read the full transcript below.

Stossel: We invited the Los Angeles politicians who supported the law to join us today to defend it; all nine declined. So, former prosecutor Wendy Murphy stepped forward to explain why the law is needed. Porn actress is here to say the law is a waste of money and violates her freedom. (Applause) Obviously, the audience has a point of view, but let’s all be fair here. So, the politicians—Kayden, you first—they are just trying to protect you.

Kross: That’s what they say. We don’t feel we need the protection. We don’t feel there was a problem. A third party stepped in and created what was essentially a crisis that wasn’t there.

S: But we do have a sexually transmitted disease problem. I would assume porn stars would be morelikely to have some disease.

K: Porn stars test every 28-30 days. We’re the most-tested sexually active population in the world.

S: Every thirty days, the movie companies voluntarily send you out to be tested.

K: Right. It’s self-regulation. It’s not a law. The studios say it’s mandatory; they will not shoot us without a valid test.

S: Okay, so, prosecutor Murphy, why does the government always have to do more?

Murphy: Well, a couple of things. First of all, I can’t name the guy, but an insider from the industry who was in charge of all this testing has shared with the government officials who support this idea that this stuff is rampant—Chlamydia, the risk of HIV/AIDS, this is not that complicated. Women have a right to be protected!

Whatever you think about this business, they should not be exposed to a risk of dying. Gesturing to Kayden,

You may not care, but this isn’t about you. This is about all the women in the industry.

K: “But it’s my body. I can put it in whatever situation I want to put it in.”

M: Where are your parents? Your parent should be here listening to this. The thing is, you may want to do all sorts of things to your body, and that’s fine—I wish you wouldn’t hurt yourself; if you want to, that’s your business—but just because people would like to put asbestos in their home, they can’t! Why? Because they’re going to get sick or die. And so the government, which is supposed to protect us with health standards, says you can’t do it even if you want to, because this isn’t about your freedom—it is about the wellbeing of humans, and that’s the purpose of government, to protect human beings from serious health risks and death.

Do any of you care about that?

<A smattering of applause>

S: Of course they care about that. Kayden, you have another reason why this wouldn’t be popular, that you don’t want the actors wearing condoms.

K: When I first heard about this, I went out on the record to say condoms for the sort of shooting we do are just plain painful. Condoms are more for normal sex.

S: I’d also think, the viewers … I don’t see how this works.

K: There is a small market that does like condoms, and that need is already being met by studios that shoot condom-only. We also on every single set are required by law to have condoms available; any performer can use them if she thinks that she wants to. Most performers choose not to; in fact, a lot of performers will not work for the condom-only company because it hurts; it’s not comfortable.

M: Well, dying hurts more.

S: Wendy, I assume if this is enforced—and I never trust the bureaucrats to enforce these laws—then the industry, with ninety percent of it in Los Angeles County with these laws, will just go someplace else.

M: Yeah, but that’s not a reason to let people become sick and die. I agree with you, it raises that problem. But let’s be blunt, okay? People watch porn, especially the guys who are alone … the research tells us the guys who are alone not only want to watch porn where there’s no condom, they want to watch gonzo porn. We’re talking about the most violent of stuff that if you saw it, you would be disgusted and you would be afraid, and you would … in my opinion, feel differently…

S: Well, then they wouldn’t watch it.

K: <Garbled>

M: You need to know that the most common type of porn is violent; it is not sexual—it is violent. So, on top of that we are exposing women to the risk that they’re going to get very bad diseases that will last a lifetime … and die.

SKayden, the politicians are trying to be helpful. They want good role models. If porn stars…

K: The thing is … we’re not sex education. You don’t watch a Vin Diesel movie to learn how to drive, and you don’t watch porn to learn all about sex and health and all of that. We’re a fantasy; we’re creating a product for a market. It’s not our responsibility to say, “Oh, you need to use a condom in this circumstance.” It’s our responsibility to use performers who are of legal age and consenting and healthy. We do that. Sex education is up to the parents.

M: This is not about private activity; this is not about private behavior. This is about a business, and when a business wants to put the profits over the well-being of the performers who work in the business, no matter how you feel about porn, when you’re making profit, you can’t say, we would like to make more profit even if it means women getting sick and dying. You can’t do that in this country.

K: But who’s dying?

M: We want our government to protect people from serious injury.

S: Yeah, I haven’t heard about porn stars who die.

K: We haven’t had a transmission on set in years.

M: Oh, you didn’t have an AIDS in 2004 that had how many people infected, which is a part of why the AIDS community…

K: ‘04.

S: In ‘04, and then they started testing and nobody since.

M: This is a person who came out publicly and said … a guy, who infected at least three women with AIDS in the industry.

K: In the real world, it’s a higher statistic.

M: I don’t care! You should not be okay with four dead people.

K: They’re not dead. I know them. They’re happily married.

M: They’re happily married with AIDS! They’re happy with AIDS. Happy with AIDS! Did you hear that? They’re happy.

K: You can be happy and have a disease.

M: That is the dumbest argument I have ever heard.

S: Okay, last point. Kayden, what’s going to happen? There is this law. I assume most of your fellow actresses and actors are not going to go along with it. What’s going to happen?

K: Well, there’s the possibility that the industry is going to get pushed back underground and there’s the possibility we move out of California. Also, if this is going to chase us around the U.S, then people are going to go overseas for their porn, where it’s not regulated at all. There are not age requirements, they don’t do mandatory testing and it’s even less safe.

S: The law doesn’t just solve the problem?

K: It does not do that, no.

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